Comments on: The “Grid”….. http://www.mrambler.com/blog/2008/04/20/the-grid/ We are community ramblings. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:12:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MRambler http://www.mrambler.com/blog/2008/04/20/the-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-7778 MRambler Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:33:55 +0000 http://www.mrambler.com/blog/?p=666#comment-7778 The AT&T article was interesting..... So, basically we are relying on private investors deciding whether it's viable to their profit margins to invest in further expansion of the Internet's network architecture, while we wait around for it to max-out in a couple of years and possibly self-destruct due to overload..... Not what I wanted to hear, but, not entirely unexpected...... The AT&T article was interesting….. So, basically we are relying on private investors deciding whether it’s viable to their profit margins to invest in further expansion of the Internet’s network architecture, while we wait around for it to max-out in a couple of years and possibly self-destruct due to overload….. Not what I wanted to hear, but, not entirely unexpected……

]]> By: Jek http://www.mrambler.com/blog/2008/04/20/the-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-7777 Jek Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:17:45 +0000 http://www.mrambler.com/blog/?p=666#comment-7777 Ug, well admittedly I skimmed the article. It was a bit long and painful. I especially hate the definition of cloud computing. The way it reads is hard to tell the difference between it and mainframe computing of old. PlEAsE. I doubt you'll see a drastic switch over to something completely new. Instead the internet will grow over time to new and hopefully better things. Then again there's this recent article that has AT&T saying that <a href="http://www.news.com/2100-1034_3-6237715.html" rel="nofollow">without investment, the Internet's current network architecture will reach the limits of its capacity by 2010</a>. Ug, well admittedly I skimmed the article. It was a bit long and painful. I especially hate the definition of cloud computing. The way it reads is hard to tell the difference between it and mainframe computing of old. PlEAsE.

I doubt you’ll see a drastic switch over to something completely new. Instead the internet will grow over time to new and hopefully better things. Then again there’s this recent article that has AT&T saying that without investment, the Internet’s current network architecture will reach the limits of its capacity by 2010.

]]> By: MRambler http://www.mrambler.com/blog/2008/04/20/the-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-7776 MRambler Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29:40 +0000 http://www.mrambler.com/blog/?p=666#comment-7776 Thanks for the input, HuskySooner..... I guess I still haven't learned my lesson about passing on things that are e-mailed to me. I do try to keep them to a minimum. Being a person of limited tech knowledge of the Internet and one who hasn't been tracking the latest technology, I was highly impressed on my first reading of this, but, as I re-read it after your comments, you're right, it does sound like a blatant commercial for CERN/LHC. I guess I should have condensed it down some, but, I wanted to hear what our Community "Experts", of which I think we have quite a few, thought of it, and, your input helped put it in perspective for me. I know that there are changes/improvements to the Internet on a daily basis. One last question - do you think there are any major super leaps that might possibly happen in the technology sometime in the near future, like the digital TV changeover, or, will the changes continue to be patchwork and layers?...... Thanks for the input, HuskySooner….. I guess I still haven’t learned my lesson about passing on things that are e-mailed to me. I do try to keep them to a minimum. Being a person of limited tech knowledge of the Internet and one who hasn’t been tracking the latest technology, I was highly impressed on my first reading of this, but, as I re-read it after your comments, you’re right, it does sound like a blatant commercial for CERN/LHC. I guess I should have condensed it down some, but, I wanted to hear what our Community “Experts”, of which I think we have quite a few, thought of it, and, your input helped put it in perspective for me.

I know that there are changes/improvements to the Internet on a daily basis. One last question – do you think there are any major super leaps that might possibly happen in the technology sometime in the near future, like the digital TV changeover, or, will the changes continue to be patchwork and layers?……

]]> By: huskysooner http://www.mrambler.com/blog/2008/04/20/the-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-7775 huskysooner Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:56:37 +0000 http://www.mrambler.com/blog/?p=666#comment-7775 Some of the technology is interesting, but I read this sometime back, and I'm not impressed. It sounds like a crass, self-congratulatory promotional release for CERN/LHC. I'm not a network person, but just a few comments: The article acts like the internet hasn't changed since Tim Berners-Lee "invented the web" in 1989. 1. What about internet2, lambda rail, etc.? It's not like we're poking along with 1989 bandwidths. 2. As far as the "invented" business, he certainly set the stage for the way most of us access information on the internet (hypertext/html), but it's basically an abstraction layer on top of the network itself. Also, the particle physics nerds aren't the only ones who crank through multi-petabyte datasets. Think climate model output, networks of 3D radar data, etc. Some of the technology is interesting, but I read this sometime back, and I’m not impressed. It sounds like a crass, self-congratulatory promotional release for CERN/LHC.

I’m not a network person, but just a few comments:

The article acts like the internet hasn’t changed since Tim Berners-Lee “invented the web” in 1989.

1. What about internet2, lambda rail, etc.? It’s not like we’re poking along with 1989 bandwidths.

2. As far as the “invented” business, he certainly set the stage for the way most of us access information on the internet (hypertext/html), but it’s basically an abstraction layer on top of the network itself.

Also, the particle physics nerds aren’t the only ones who crank through multi-petabyte datasets. Think climate model output, networks of 3D radar data, etc.

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